What is nonsense? What is griefing?

Discussion in 'Report Nonsense / Server Issues / Dispute Bans' started by Don't Say Bad Words to Me, Jan 3, 2012.

What is nonsense? What is griefing?

  1. Don't Say Bad Words to Me

    Don't Say Bad Words to Me First Asshat of 2012

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    Just wondering what those two words really mean to your admins. My experience is that it means "we'll kick you without warning for saying mean things to other players" (even without violating your language bans in letter or in spirit).

    Do you have rules against cursing, too? I didn't fall foul of those, but I'm curious to know why anyone in this day and age would object to some "fuck" and "damn." Some of your admins are also in the armed forces, where I'm sure they hear those words every day (I know I do): so why the burning ears?
     
  2. GhostSheets

    GhostSheets Opus Eponymous

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    I love responding to threads like these because in the back of my head I'm always curious what the player's reaction will be.

    First of all... here are the two words and only two words that will get you automatically banned by our server plugins.
    1. F a g g o t
    2. N i g g e r
    Any other curse word for the most part is totally fine with us. Join our TeamSpeak server during a heated match and surely you'll come to understand our towering appreciation for special four letter words of the English language.

    But the two words I mentioned above take cursing to another level. People we don't want to play with.

    Aside from those two completely off limit words we are generally pretty lenient on all other offenses. We'll offer warnings if we see fit. If someone is partaking in repeated behavior of douchebaggery then we may opt to instant ban. Without warning. And that's up to us because we pay for the servers so we have the final call.

    Team damaging. Team vehicle damaging. Vehicle ramming. Vehicle stealing. Use your imagination. All douchebaggery. Or greifing as we prefer to call it.

    We are pretty down to earth dudes and do not like to "over-admin" our servers but if you take it to unprecedented levels then you'll end up on our ban list; never to be heard from again. And I'm assuming those depths is where you are trying to call us out from then?
     
  3. Don't Say Bad Words to Me

    Don't Say Bad Words to Me First Asshat of 2012

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    I didn't do any of those things you've listed as griefing, nor anything related.

    All I'm guilty of was letting one of my teammates know, via text, that he really sucked in the AA tank (and he did, repeatedly, over many respawns). I was hoping this would encourage him to let anyone else use the vehicle since I'm sure they would have been more effective.

    Instead, he got mad and suggested to one of the admins, who wasn't even present for most of the conversation, that I be kicked. So I was given a warning (that's how I know why I was kicked), then was kicked immediately after the warning without any further "violations" on my part.

    I lost my sweet score (top of the team) as the map was ending. Coincidentally, the admin was on the losing team.
     
  4. GhostSheets

    GhostSheets Opus Eponymous

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    So perhaps instead of naming your user account itself in an accusing manner against what you presumed you were banned for, why didn't you just tell it like it was the first time around?

    Also, ragging on your teamates isn't going to "encourage" them to do better. That can be considered nonsense which is sort of... not welcome in our communities gaming culture.

    I don't blame the guy for getting mad. I can only imagine the types of things you were probably saying to this guy over and over. As I mentioned earlier, warnings are up to the admin in game at that time. If you're being a douche you may get banned.

    So anyway, here we are. You disputing your ban because you think we sleep with the Holy Bible under our pillows when in actuality you were just being a fuckass. See? I've got no problem with cursing :) I'll take my admin's word and side of the story over yours and allow them to follow up with what "really" happened via a response to this thread.

    Lastly, you're score is cached in the BF3 Master Server until the round ends, when you will then obtain your points. Unless that is, you begin another match before the match you were kicked from ends.

    We're not assholes round here. But when you act like a douche, you'll get banned. Stop acting like we're the ones to blame.
     
  5. Don't Say Bad Words to Me

    Don't Say Bad Words to Me First Asshat of 2012

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    Well, then. I won't pretend to dispute that I'm guilty of "nonsense" by the iron-clad definition you just provided.

    My point is: what kind of people are you that you can't stand some debate between two players, via text chat no less? It's not like I was hogging a vital communications channel (as might happen in voice chat). I'm sorry I made your admin (and you, I'm sure) uncomfortable with some reasoned debate. It's not for everyone.

    I'm also very sorry if you thought I was asking to be unbanned on your server. The thought never crossed my mind. I wouldn't associate with you people any further, even if you paid me.
     
  6. GhostSheets

    GhostSheets Opus Eponymous

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    Yet here you are. On your 3rd post. After signing up and email authorizing your account on our forums.

    Take care pal. Good luck "encouraging" players on the 12,000 other servers out there. /yay
     
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    Cousin_Bill Donating Member

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    And another one bites the dust.....
     
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    Too funny. Nicely handled sheets.
     
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  9. Franko

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    If all you really said was "you suck in that AA" then you never would of been kicked/banned by an admin. If you were doing it repeatedly, in the chat box, regardless of cursing or not, you may be kicked/banned for griefing. I'm guessing you were doing the latter, going on and on about this super important person in the AA you thought to give so much attention to, by wasting your time with your important "debate". Again, if you are consistently arguing with someone in chat, you will be removed. Simple as that.
     
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  10. GhostSheets

    GhostSheets Opus Eponymous

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    Yep!

    There are so many people that consistently tell us how are servers are some of the best they've ever played on.

    We also do get the occasional person who comes here unhappy about something and we always try to go out of our way to make it right. Unfortunately there is another class of people. Those who can do no wrong and can never be pleased, no matter how you reason with them. This goofball was one of those.