A couple of useful Carbine/SMG stats for hipfiring

Discussion in 'PS2 Main' started by Vonic, Mar 21, 2013.

A couple of useful Carbine/SMG stats for hipfiring

Discussion in 'PS2 Main' started by Vonic, Mar 21, 2013.

  1. Vonic

    Vonic Hate /tell receiving extraordinaire

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    LS = Laser Sight
    ALS = Advanced Laser Sight

    I thought this could help you guys decide on which carbine/smg to hipfire with. Instead of just showing you the raw weapon statistics found at http://ps2.dynet.com (which I highly recommend you check out when you're deciding on which weapon to use/pick up), I thought I'd combine a few stats to show you more practical and time based numbers.

    Also, you might find this useful:
    • Laser sight: Reduces the initial size of your cone of fire by 37.5% when hipfiring
    • Advanced Laser Sight: Reduces the initial size of your cone of fire by 50% when hipfiring
    • Compensator: Reduces vertical recoil, but increases your starting cone of fire by 25% when hipfiring
    • Flash Suppressor: Removes Muzzle flash, but increases ADS and hipfire CoF per shot by 20%
     
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  2. Calilator

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  3. Vonic

    Vonic Hate /tell receiving extraordinaire

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    Just learned that the Compensator actually doesn't increase your cone of fire bloom per shot, but instead increases your starting cone of fire by 25%

    Here are a couple of configurations and their cof values

    Hip CoF Values while standing + moving

    • VX6-7 = 1.75
      • with Advanced Laser Sight = 0.875
    • Eridani = 1.50
      • with Advanced Laser Sight = 0.75
      • with Advanced Laser Sight and Compensator = 0.9375
      • with Extended Mag = 1.50
      • with Extended Mag + Compensator = 1.75
    • Solstice = 2.0
      • with Laser Sight = 1.25
    • Serpent= 2.0
      • with Advanced Laser Sight= 1.0
    • Sirius = 1.5
      • with Advanced Laser Sight = 0.75
     
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  4. Kowlefe

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    What carbine would you say is the best overall with the given statistics?
     
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    • (Eridani + extended magazine) has a slightly smaller cone of fire size over time than a (VX6-7 + advanced laser sight)
    • (Eridani + Compensator + Extended Mag) has a slightly larger cone of fire size over time than a (Serpent + advanced laser Sight)
    • (Eridani + Extended magazine) deals an additional 715 damage per magazine at 10-15m than a (VX6-7 + advanced laser sight).
    • (Eridani) deals 119 less damage per second at 10-15m than the (VX6-7).
    • Most Carbines can have a max potential of 30060 damage before running out of ammunition in its ammo pool and magazine
      • (Eridani) has a max potential of 28625 damage
      • (Sirius) has a max potential of 31300 damage
    • (Eridani + Compensator) has the least amount of vertical recoil out of all the carbines and SMGs.
    • (Eridani) has the lowest bullet velocity (360m/s).
      • (Sirius) is at 400m/s,
      • (VX6-7) is 420m/s,
      • (Serpent) is 465m/s.
      • The rest are 515m/s
    • Most carbines have a minumum of 100 damage per shot.
      • (Eridani) deals a minumum of 91 damage per shot.
      • (Sirius) deals a minumum of 84 damage per shot.
    • Most carbines reach their minimum level of damage at 115m.
      • The (Eridani)/(Sirius) reach their minimum damage level at 50m
     
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  6. Geneau

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    You can compensate for vertical recoil. You can't compensate for CoF. So, why would you ever use the Compensator?
     
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    Vonic Hate /tell receiving extraordinaire

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    With a compensator, the Eridani ends up being much more controllable when you ADS. You can have good ADS control and a pretty tight hipfire CoF along with 35 round in your mag. There are times where I need to ADS when I'm doing my Light Assault thing. This will allow you to extend its effective range, while still maintaining the damage of a carbine.

    I haven't tried this setup yet, but looking at just the stats, I could see how it'd be a viable configuration.

    You get:
    - Less vertical recoil than a VX6-7
    - Only a sliiightly larger CoF than a VX6-7 with an Advanced laser Sight
    - You keep the softpoint ammunition
    - You get 35 rounds as opposed to 30.
     
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    Vonic Hate /tell receiving extraordinaire

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    Also useful:

    • Suppressor
      • Removes Muzzle Flash
      • Prevents you from showing up on radar when firing your weapon
      • Gives your weapon a "suppressed" sound (some more than others)
      • Reduces bullet velocity
        • Slower bullets means you will have to lead your shots more
    • Flash Suppressor
      • Removes Muzzle flash
      • Increases Cone of fire bloom per shot when hipfiring and aiming down the sights
        • Your cone of fire will grow faster when firing consecutive shots
     
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    I appreciate your effort and investment of time into the betterment of this great community. Kudos.
     
  10. Kowlefe

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    Is there any possibility of you doing one for LMGs?